Naked ladies dance for men: Stripping and sex in New York

Anti-sex-industry campaigning promotes the idea that society is sexually out of control and we are in imminent danger of being devoured by raging commercial sex. The introduction to Three Naked Ladies says different: For as a long as there’s been music, women have danced for the entertainment and titillation of men: Dancers Rachel Aimee, Lauri Shaw and Jodi Sh Doff discuss whether dancing is ‘going downhill,’ whether dancers have to offer more than before and how regulation works and doesn’t work inside dance venues in New York from the 1970s to today. Look for the Three Naked Ladies and a new topic every Wednesday on laurishaw.com, thedirtygirldiaries.com, and hoshookerscallgirlsandrentboys.com. Here it is revealed that dancers were once referred to as hot lunches.

Rachel Aimee: I think there’s this myth among dancers that the industry is “going downhill” and that dancers across the board are expected to do more than they used to do. I know women who have been working since the 90s and refer to that decade as the “golden age of stripping,” when dancers got paid tons of money just to dance on stage and didn’t even have to touch the customers, but it seems . . .  that dancers have been doing more than just dancing for a long time.

Lauri Shaw: Yes, and in the 90s there were girls who said the same thing about the 80s.  . .

Jodi Sh Doff: In the late 70s there was a lot less regulation. It was years before AIDS reared its ugly head. Tourists, particularly Japanese men, could come off the plane at Kennedy airport, hand a cabbie a slip of paper with just the word “Cookie” on it. Places like the Cookie Jar and Winks were standing room only, bottomless, with stages no higher than, well, than your dinner table. Girls were there for your dining and dancing pleasure, hot lunches they used to be called. The money was insane and there was no hustle. You couldn’t sit and drink with a customer — there was no room. . . By the early 80s the Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) code called the shots, and if a club served booze, the girls had to be a minimum of six feet away from the customers and they had to have g-strings. No pulling aside the g-string (although girls did), no touching yourself or them (of course we did that too). That’s when a lot of stages moved behind the actual bar. Diamond Lils was a renegade bar, hence the lack of register tape or financial records of any kind.

RA: Yes, you couldn’t get away with anything like that at clubs I’ve worked at, but I think it’s the norm for lapdances to be pretty heavy contact and sometimes include “extras” (hand jobs, etc.), especially in private rooms. Then of course there are plenty of dancers who just dance and don’t do anything illegal.

LS: All of that’s true, in fact last year Scores lost its liquor license after getting busted for prostitution in 2007. But in the 90s, blatant tricks didn’t happen out in the open like that, out on stage for everyone to see. The rule was generally “no touching the girls onstage.”

RA: I’ve also heard cops arresting dancers just for allegedly agreeing to perform an illegal act. In cases where dancers get busted, of course the clubs never take any responsibility, even if they knew perfectly well what was going on and may have been making money off it.

LS: I do remember one place where a scenario like at Diamond Lils might have flown — the Harmony Theatre. I was only there once. They kept it really dark and made no pretence of being “entertainers.” I don’t think they even bothered serving drinks. I do not remember there being a bar at all. Men sat in those theatre seats and haggled with the girls over the price of a lapdance, which was often a euphemism for a hand job or more.

JshD:The original Harmony was uptown, on 48th Street, right by the Gaiety Burlesque. The Gaiety was an all male dance house with live sex shows and a lot of action going on back stage between sets. Working girls used to hang out in the back rows just to get off their feet for a while. It was a blast, I had a few guy friends who worked the Gaiety. But the Harmony used to be specialty acts, old school star strippers and girls that could pick a dollar up off the table with their cooch. Very impressive if you ask me. I believe the name was changed to the Melody Burlesque and then the Harmony re-opened downtown and it was that free-for-all you’re talking about. All lap dancing, no pretense of being “entertainment” at all.

LS: Exactly, it was a free-for-all. Men could buy anything they wanted at the Harmony, and working girls could buy the freedom to give the men whatever they wanted. There wasn’t a bouncer in sight. The shift manager sat in the coat room, away from all the action.

RA: I’ve never worked at a place that was that free and easy, but I’ve definitely preferred working at clubs where management was more hands-off. At some of the big corporate “gentlemen’s clubs” that have taken over modern-day Manhattan, management are constantly micro-managing everything the dancers do, policing lapdances and pressuring dancers to take customers to private rooms (because they make a huge cut). I think most dancers prefer the freedom to decide for themselves what they’re comfortable with. But in general I find it’s very difficult to have open conversations about who does what in strip clubs because it’s so easy to offend people. There’s so much stigma attached to sex work that it’s easy to unintentionally make someone feel bad if you’re not willing to do something that they are willing to do. Everyone has different boundaries, so I think that tension is always going to exist in the industry.

– Laura Agustín, the Naked Anthropologist

3 thoughts on “Naked ladies dance for men: Stripping and sex in New York

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  2. jodi sh. doff

    Thanks for the coverage, Laura. Hot Lunchs referred to the bottomless clubs where a man could pull his chair right up to the stage and chow down on the lady or ladies of his choice. I have a piece about it in the new Soft Skull anthology ‘Hos, Hookers, Callgirls & Rentboys’. Keep an eye peeled for tomorrow’s edition of Three Naked Ladies, Doll Parts, which addresses body image, race and silicon. We’ll be addressing a new topic every Wednesday, suggestions, input and comments are welcome and encouraged. Thanks again.

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  3. Marge96

    Love the article. I emailed the link to Sissy Panty Buns. I think you would like some of the links on his site like the ones to Audacia Ray’s Waking Vixen. Dacia is a strong sex worker’s rights advocate. There are aslo links to Feminists For Free Expression, the National Coalition Against Censorship and more. and more. He has blog articles on his main page dealing with censorshop, but the funniest things on his site is the free panty photos that he begs and dares women to copy and share and where he also begs for comments. Not only is it OMG WTF LMAO entertainment but there are some good zingers in the comments too.

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