Comments on: Policing sex trafficking in Rio, with farcical elements http://www.lauraagustin.com/policing-sex-trafficking-in-rio-with-farcical-elements Dr Laura Agustín on Migration, Trafficking and Sex Mon, 21 May 2012 11:21:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Bill Smythe http://www.lauraagustin.com/policing-sex-trafficking-in-rio-with-farcical-elements#comment-1612 Bill Smythe Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:46:50 +0000 http://www.lauraagustin.com/?p=5196#comment-1612 The question is are you serious researchers or a privileged couple turned on by the promiscuity of the erotic environment. If so would you be able to indulge in this fantasy outside the social economic of the third world. The question is are you serious researchers or a privileged couple turned on by the promiscuity of the erotic environment. If so would you be able to indulge in this fantasy outside the social economic of the third world.

]]> By: Bill Smythe http://www.lauraagustin.com/policing-sex-trafficking-in-rio-with-farcical-elements#comment-1608 Bill Smythe Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:59:35 +0000 http://www.lauraagustin.com/?p=5196#comment-1608 Your post detracts from the underlying rout cause of why these girls go into prostitution. Its not about what the first girl said to the second girl. In your ten years of research what percentage of your research subjects after say three years of multiple clients a day have no emotional problems or even what do the have to show for it. Ask the brothel girls what are the repercussions of not meeting quota. Most would have contracted some form of STD. Condoms are not 100 percent protection. Its no point asking them you will not get the truth. You said it yourself "Most prostitutes in Rio are not poor little girls". What about the ones that are in a desperate situation and are being exploited as a result of poverty. While the police are receiving money from the brothel pimps to turn a blind eye. There is no system in place to protect the more vulnerable, as the police are then are more likely to turn a blind eye to every layer of prostitution. Are you just doing your research in the Copa and Ipanema or are you also looking into the lower budget women who are not blessed with the physical attributes of the higher end prostitutes. These women are far more at risk from disease and physical abuse. The precedent is being set higher up the food chain. Your post detracts from the underlying rout cause of why these girls go into prostitution.
Its not about what the first girl said to the second girl.
In your ten years of research what percentage of your research subjects after say three years of multiple clients a day have no emotional problems or even what do the have to show for it.
Ask the brothel girls what are the repercussions of not meeting quota.

Most would have contracted some form of STD. Condoms are not 100 percent protection. Its no point asking them you will not get the truth.

You said it yourself “Most prostitutes in Rio are not poor little girls”. What about the ones that are in a desperate situation and are being exploited as a result of poverty. While the police are receiving money from the brothel pimps to turn a blind eye. There is no system in place to protect the more vulnerable, as the police are then are more likely to turn a blind eye to every layer of prostitution.
Are you just doing your research in the Copa and Ipanema or are you also looking into the lower budget women who are not blessed with the physical attributes of the higher end prostitutes. These women are far more at risk from disease and physical abuse.

The precedent is being set higher up the food chain.

]]> By: Thaddeus Blanchette http://www.lauraagustin.com/policing-sex-trafficking-in-rio-with-farcical-elements#comment-1603 Thaddeus Blanchette Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:20:17 +0000 http://www.lauraagustin.com/?p=5196#comment-1603 [To the immediately preceding commentator] Sorry. I and my wife are researchers in Rio de Janeiro and we've been looking at prostitution for close to a decade now. "Pimps" - at least in their more traditional and alarming aspect - are relatively thin on the ground here. While you are correct that many women can earn a month's salary in a few hours of sex work, this in and of itself mitigates against the role of the pimp, as you describe it. Women are intelligent beings and can do math. They can figure this stuff out for themselves. Most prostitutes in Rio are not poor little girls who were ignorant about sex and the possibilities of selling it until some big, bad pimp came along and told them. Our research idnicates that most women who get drawn into the sex trade here in Rio are recruited by FREINDS, who show them how much money they can make. [To the immediately preceding commentator]

Sorry.

I and my wife are researchers in Rio de Janeiro and we’ve been looking at prostitution for close to a decade now.

“Pimps” – at least in their more traditional and alarming aspect – are relatively thin on the ground here. While you are correct that many women can earn a month’s salary in a few hours of sex work, this in and of itself mitigates against the role of the pimp, as you describe it. Women are intelligent beings and can do math. They can figure this stuff out for themselves. Most prostitutes in Rio are not poor little girls who were ignorant about sex and the possibilities of selling it until some big, bad pimp came along and told them.

Our research idnicates that most women who get drawn into the sex trade here in Rio are recruited by FREINDS, who show them how much money they can make.

]]> By: Bill Smythe http://www.lauraagustin.com/policing-sex-trafficking-in-rio-with-farcical-elements#comment-1599 Bill Smythe Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:18:01 +0000 http://www.lauraagustin.com/?p=5196#comment-1599 The exploitation of prostitutes in Rio cannot be stopped by the present policing system. If you go to any of the Rio brothels (especially Monte Carlo, L'uomo, Centurus, 4x4, 65 and many many more, the so called higher end brothels) you will find the police get free entrance and there is a police bribing system in place. This is the only way the pimps can operate so openly outside the law. I doubt there are many male officials that could stand up and fight for the rights of the prostitutes, as they probably use their position to gain access to the prostitutes in these brothels. I would expect the prostitutes are required to keep these key people happy just to maintain the status quo. This is not the real problem. Travel anywhere in small town Brazil one thing you will find no shortage of is pregnant adolescent girls. The systems of local government throughout Brazil are intentionally disorganized. This makes it easier for local officials to steal money intended for education, health care and infrastructure maintenance. Until the Brazilian central government instigate disciplined audit procedures through out local government Brazil. The education and pride of the Brazilian people will not improve. Spending money on cleaning up the image of tiny areas where the privileged Brazilians live will not help the rout cause (just helps the privileged Brazilians sleep better at night). It makes it worse, as more people will travel to these rich areas to try and fulfill their dreams. Many of these people will be young girls who will find out very quickly that there poor rural education leaves them with limited options. Rich Brazilians are the worst at paying there domestic staff and are lousy tippers. So the choice of these girls is earn a minimal salary in a crap job or if they have the physical attributes, they can earn a month salary in a few hours by prostituting themselves. Their are many pimps (male and female) flying lazy circles looking for fresh meat. The pimps now have the advantage and steer these girls along this new career path. The exploitation of prostitutes in Rio cannot be stopped by the present policing system. If you go to any of the Rio brothels (especially Monte Carlo, L’uomo, Centurus, 4×4, 65 and many many more, the so called higher end brothels) you will find the police get free entrance and there is a police bribing system in place. This is the only way the pimps can operate so openly outside the law. I doubt there are many male officials that could stand up and fight for the rights of the prostitutes, as they probably use their position to gain access to the prostitutes in these brothels. I would expect the prostitutes are required to keep these key people happy just to maintain the status quo.
This is not the real problem. Travel anywhere in small town Brazil one thing you will find no shortage of is pregnant adolescent girls. The systems of local government throughout Brazil are intentionally disorganized. This makes it easier for local officials to steal money intended for education, health care and infrastructure maintenance. Until the Brazilian central government instigate disciplined audit procedures through out local government Brazil. The education and pride of the Brazilian people will not improve. Spending money on cleaning up the image of tiny areas where the privileged Brazilians live will not help the rout cause (just helps the privileged Brazilians sleep better at night). It makes it worse, as more people will travel to these rich areas to try and fulfill their dreams. Many of these people will be young girls who will find out very quickly that there poor rural education leaves them with limited options. Rich Brazilians are the worst at paying there domestic staff and are lousy tippers. So the choice of these girls is earn a minimal salary in a crap job or if they have the physical attributes, they can earn a month salary in a few hours by prostituting themselves. Their are many pimps (male and female) flying lazy circles looking for fresh meat. The pimps now have the advantage and steer these girls along this new career path.

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