«you wrote about extremist feminism or authoritarian feminism or radical feminism, I have the right words for it. lesbian feminism»

As a disclaimer, i can only respond from personal anecdotes. I’ve become interested in this domain because (thanks?) to an acquaintance who is a radical feminist, and whose discourse sounded extremely quixotic to me; she does have abolitionist goals in regard to sex-trade, and is a strong proponent of the Swedish model and of even more coercitive options.

In definitive opposition to your proposition, she deems LGBT people as her (their) obvious opponents; and strongly denounces the «LGBT-lobby» as being on the side of sex-traffickers and other social evils. Indeed it seems that gay, lesbian and trans people are more often active in the defense of the rights of sex-trade workers, than in opposition to them.

I know about a dozen gay and lesbian people (a few of whom are close friends) and they are indeed not at all in phase with such radical feminism, being either less politically minded or simple more interested in what we could call «sex-positive» stances than in coercitive and radical ones.

The thing is, the so-called “lesbian feminism” advocated by women like Sheila Jeffreys has very little connection to most lesbians. It is an ideology of mainly heterosexual women who have had problems with men and who have created this ideology of the “political lesbian” as a response. “Political lesbianism” is merely a reaction by a small group against heterosexuality and has nothing to do with what actual lesbians think or how they live. In fact, most lesbians, including feminist ones, who I’ve read on the subject of “political lesbianism” have had little good to say about it.

I was once convinced to join a very extremist form of feminism (but obviously it wasn’t promoted like that in the beginning) and after some days the “feminists” started to, I don’t know if it is the right word but, yes they were touching me. At the beginning I taught it was like joking or having fun, but no, they were hitting on me and expecting me to return the same kind of attention. Well when I told them that I wasn’t interested and that I liked boys, they shouted at me and I even received a slap in my face. I was called names, a “man pleasing whore” and a traitor of women.

Radical feminists (or the way you prefer to call them) simply hate men. They deny it, but they do. They trivialize men, but they reject the idea of man hating or misandry or male bashing, but yes, it is man hating, it is misandry. i guess if you want to rob a bank you aren’t going to say it, you deny it. A lot of people (bothe males and females) still believe feminists are angry women or frustrade females who don’t have sex. No feminists are lesbians who really hate all things manly. They do have an agenda, and I know that agenda becose in the beginning I was part of it untill I decided to abandon that fascism. They are simply trying to “sabotrage” men in any form, any way, any possible direction. Today I have changed the way I see both men and women, both can be equally evil and fanatics, liars and dishonest. Today I just want to marry my boyfriend and have babies. If there is a way to good, positive revenge towards them, I choose love, motherhood, family and my man with me. lesbian feminist misandry showed me one thing: I really really love men.

This would be an interesting topic for research, in case it hasn’t already been researched: what are the causes and sources of the fear that specific forms of sex have caused in pretty much every human civilization (possibly with sex slavery as a test case)? And, historically speaking, what forces have been able to achieve change, in the specific cases where taboos have changed throughout history?

There were civilizations and moments in history in which sex slavery was actually accepted — this was, I believe, a common function for female slaves in classical antiquity. The chord being struck here may actually include some other element; something I feel is associated with sexual violence and rape (things in general much less popular throughout history than mere sex slavery).