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		<title>By: Polprav</title>
		<link>http://www.lauraagustin.com/exiting-in-the-opposite-direction-maids-become-sex-workers#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Polprav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Russia!
Can I quote a post in your blog with the link to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Russia!<br />
Can I quote a post in your blog with the link to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Agustin</title>
		<link>http://www.lauraagustin.com/exiting-in-the-opposite-direction-maids-become-sex-workers#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Agustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thad, not by coincidence my next post will include some quotations from adriana&#039;s latest. 

when i was studying women who went to spain from the caribbean, back ages ago, the problems of domestic and sex work seemed very similar and people moved back and forth. 

failing at housework usually meant just that spanish employers were dissatisfied with some aspect of their employee, including her attractiveness to husband or son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thad, not by coincidence my next post will include some quotations from adriana&#8217;s latest. </p>
<p>when i was studying women who went to spain from the caribbean, back ages ago, the problems of domestic and sex work seemed very similar and people moved back and forth. </p>
<p>failing at housework usually meant just that spanish employers were dissatisfied with some aspect of their employee, including her attractiveness to husband or son.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Thaddeus - yes, I totally agree with you, I was just reporting what I read, and which left me very bemused.  

It&#039;s just another example of  people with their heads in the clouds - they would rather believe that sex workers are &quot;failed&quot; housemaids than accept that sex work might be a more attractive option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thaddeus &#8211; yes, I totally agree with you, I was just reporting what I read, and which left me very bemused.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just another example of  people with their heads in the clouds &#8211; they would rather believe that sex workers are &#8220;failed&#8221; housemaids than accept that sex work might be a more attractive option.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus Blanchette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaddeus Blanchette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I just translated an excellent article by Adriana Piscitelli dealing with some of these same issues with Brazilian sex worker immigrant women in Spain. 

You folks might want to keep an eye out for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I just translated an excellent article by Adriana Piscitelli dealing with some of these same issues with Brazilian sex worker immigrant women in Spain. </p>
<p>You folks might want to keep an eye out for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus Blanchette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaddeus Blanchette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Chery,

It went out to Sexual Policies Watch at the end of September and should be up on their website and available to all, soon. 

The SPW people have kindly agreed to revise  its Portuguese (which is something I generally have to pay for) in return for a free English translation by myself. The current version has legible - but very rough - Portuguese. If you&#039;d still like to give it a go, mail me at Macunaima30@yahoo.com.br and I&#039;ll send you the unrevised Portuguese version.

Matt, I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s so much failing as housework, exactly...

We have a couple of informants who are prostitutes precisely because it allows them to continue with housework. It&#039;s the only job that gets them enough money that, with two days of work a week, they can meet their families&#039; financial needs AND take on the role of housewife-mom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chery,</p>
<p>It went out to Sexual Policies Watch at the end of September and should be up on their website and available to all, soon. </p>
<p>The SPW people have kindly agreed to revise  its Portuguese (which is something I generally have to pay for) in return for a free English translation by myself. The current version has legible &#8211; but very rough &#8211; Portuguese. If you&#8217;d still like to give it a go, mail me at <a href="mailto:Macunaima30@yahoo.com.br">Macunaima30@yahoo.com.br</a> and I&#8217;ll send you the unrevised Portuguese version.</p>
<p>Matt, I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s so much failing as housework, exactly&#8230;</p>
<p>We have a couple of informants who are prostitutes precisely because it allows them to continue with housework. It&#8217;s the only job that gets them enough money that, with two days of work a week, they can meet their families&#8217; financial needs AND take on the role of housewife-mom.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Overs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Overs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thaddeus can I get a copy of the study you mentioned? I can read Portuguese. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaddeus can I get a copy of the study you mentioned? I can read Portuguese. </p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Overs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Overs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DMSC did a study of the same. See below. 

A word of warning - our reading of the Ethiopian study may be very different than how it is read/used in Ethiopia. I worked in the Wise Up project in 2007 and 2008 and I know it&#039;s a struggle for the sex workers there to deal with resources being shifted from rights based work to  prevention of sex work. 

Dubar Mahila Samanwaya Committee (DMSC). “A survey of the various types of social, physical and occupational oppression heaped upon our sex workers before and after their entry into sex work.”

http://www.chezstella.org/stella/dmsc20071018.pdf?PHPSESSID=5ade61ab4179080b588ab1ff7747ffe6 

This survey has been conducted by the Durbar Mahila Samanwaya Committee (DMSC), a forum representing the interest of more than 60,000 sex workers of West Bengal, India. DMSC is active in promoting the Rights and Development of sex workers and their children. It runs various projects and, works in coordination with a few associate organizations. An important component of DMSC’s activities is its attempt to devise various ways and means of resisting and neutralizing the various forms of social, physical and occupational oppressions heaped upon our sex workers. For these activities DMSC needs data on these oppressions. The objective of the present survey is to collect and analyse such data. (Author Abstract)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DMSC did a study of the same. See below. </p>
<p>A word of warning &#8211; our reading of the Ethiopian study may be very different than how it is read/used in Ethiopia. I worked in the Wise Up project in 2007 and 2008 and I know it&#8217;s a struggle for the sex workers there to deal with resources being shifted from rights based work to  prevention of sex work. </p>
<p>Dubar Mahila Samanwaya Committee (DMSC). “A survey of the various types of social, physical and occupational oppression heaped upon our sex workers before and after their entry into sex work.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chezstella.org/stella/dmsc20071018.pdf?PHPSESSID=5ade61ab4179080b588ab1ff7747ffe6" rel="nofollow">http://www.chezstella.org/stella/dmsc20071018.pdf?PHPSESSID=5ade61ab4179080b588ab1ff7747ffe6</a> </p>
<p>This survey has been conducted by the Durbar Mahila Samanwaya Committee (DMSC), a forum representing the interest of more than 60,000 sex workers of West Bengal, India. DMSC is active in promoting the Rights and Development of sex workers and their children. It runs various projects and, works in coordination with a few associate organizations. An important component of DMSC’s activities is its attempt to devise various ways and means of resisting and neutralizing the various forms of social, physical and occupational oppressions heaped upon our sex workers. For these activities DMSC needs data on these oppressions. The objective of the present survey is to collect and analyse such data. (Author Abstract)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of the blue, I have just found another reference to the same phenomenon which suggests that people move from house work to sex work when they &quot;fail&quot; at house work..?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of the blue, I have just found another reference to the same phenomenon which suggests that people move from house work to sex work when they &#8220;fail&#8221; at house work..?!</p>
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		<title>By: Thaddeus Blanchette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaddeus Blanchette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

Here in Brazil we have recently published an article on the economics of prostitution which confirms what you say here.

In Rio de Janeiro, a huge number of our prostitute informants report leaving straight jobs - maid, beautician, check-out girl - to work in the sex industry. Not a single woman we`ve interviewed so far - even among the older (40+) and cheaper (1 real per minute) workers - reports wanting to leave sex work to work as a maid. Many of these women make a specific point of this. As Matt points out, many of them also report having sexual relations with bosses as maids or check-out girls as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,</p>
<p>Here in Brazil we have recently published an article on the economics of prostitution which confirms what you say here.</p>
<p>In Rio de Janeiro, a huge number of our prostitute informants report leaving straight jobs &#8211; maid, beautician, check-out girl &#8211; to work in the sex industry. Not a single woman we`ve interviewed so far &#8211; even among the older (40+) and cheaper (1 real per minute) workers &#8211; reports wanting to leave sex work to work as a maid. Many of these women make a specific point of this. As Matt points out, many of them also report having sexual relations with bosses as maids or check-out girls as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc of Frankfurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc of Frankfurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pingback: http://sexworker.at/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=67385#67385


Matt, the same goes with compulsory sex worker STI-testing as patriarchal punter protection.


The power of wording and definition regarding choice for me is outcome of controlling the power of sexuality as archaic life force and secondly the controlling of dependent vs. independent people, of worker vs. boss and later of work vs. capital. The split called capitalism is culturally more accepted or entrenched than the split of sex and love with sex for money aka prostitution.</description>
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<p>Matt, the same goes with compulsory sex worker STI-testing as patriarchal punter protection.</p>
<p>The power of wording and definition regarding choice for me is outcome of controlling the power of sexuality as archaic life force and secondly the controlling of dependent vs. independent people, of worker vs. boss and later of work vs. capital. The split called capitalism is culturally more accepted or entrenched than the split of sex and love with sex for money aka prostitution.</p>
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